I really hate to do this...but

[MNee1]

For a majority of my life, I've had conservative policies and views RAMMED down my throat by friends and family. Being a staunch Democrat I have come to resent, and even disowned a few family members because of differences of opinion. 

Basically, I try to respect ppl's views on politics, but usually turns ugly....QUICK. I'm very thin skinned and do get offended easily. So therefor, I'd prefer you be a left leaning supporter if you wish to get with me. No offense if you're a republican supporter, we just have nothing in common. However, if you're a trump supporter....you can GTH!  Sorry, it's how i feel.

Have a good day! 🙂

[SkipNC]

If it turns ugly, it was never meant to be.  However, I would observe that the USA is an enormous country, yet it only has two viable political parties.  In my native Scotland, there are five parties in parliament and at least another three represented in local councils.  When people ask my political leanings I say that I should be a Republican.  I just can't bring myself to vote a straight ticket, but I just happen to have beliefs that are, generally, right of center.  Because we only have two viable parties in this country (at least nationally) a lot of people will identify with one or the other whilst only buying into a relatively small portion of that party's policies.  Given that, do you think that, perhaps, you are narrowing your dating pool unnecessarily?

It is a long time ago now, but I am pretty sure I did not know of my wife's political affiliation until after we were engaged.

[Longtimespanking]

An older relative of mine offered these thoughts which apply to both politics and religion, many decades ago when I was growing up.

No matter what your personal views or convictions might be on such matters, there are always going to be large numbers of very nice people who hold a different or even opposite viewpoint, so it's best to never bring such things into polite conversation.  

Trying to change anyone's viewpoint seems to me to be an exercise in futility and only results in hurt feelings and broken friendships. 

[spike]

2 hours ago, MNee1 said:

For a majority of my life, I've had conservative policies and views RAMMED down my throat by friends and family. Being a staunch Democrat I have come to resent, and even disowned a few family members because of differences of opinion. 

Basically, I try to respect ppl's views on politics, but usually turns ugly....QUICK. I'm very thin skinned and do get offended easily. So therefor, I'd prefer you be a left leaning supporter if you wish to get with me. No offense if you're a republican supporter, we just have nothing in common. However, if you're a trump supporter....you can GTH!  Sorry, it's how i feel.

Have a good day! 🙂

Your post is entitled "I really hate to do this...but". Well, I really hate to read this...here. Please understand MNee, I do not begrudge you your opinion, but I don't understand your need to share it here. I belong to SN to share opinions about spanking, not politics. Regardless of your opinion, please don't ram it down my throat. 

[DaChief]

I worked in politics for several years. I left the business because it's dirty and toxic. No matter how lofty and noble the carefully manicured speeches sound, that whole arena is built on hatred and the people running for office are unrepentant narcissists. This applies to both sides of the aisle. 

I'm now an unaffiliated Independent voter. 

Everyone should have their views on politics and express them. A word of advice from a former insider though is this, "don't let it consume you."  

[mms]

My Daddy always told me if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say it at all especially if no one asked you.  He also told me that if you are the one unwilling to hear the other side of the argument then you are probably the one in the wrong.  It kinda feels like you are going out of your way to want to state your opinion and tell everybody that if they don't agree with you then they should just go to a word my Daddy has told me I'm not allowed to say.  Manners, truth, and common sense are what's missing from this world.

[MNee1]

Thanks for all the "two-cents". 

[Bramblewine]

9 hours ago, MNee1 said:

For a majority of my life, I've had conservative policies and views RAMMED down my throat by friends and family. Being a staunch Democrat I have come to resent, and even disowned a few family members because of differences of opinion. 

Basically, I try to respect ppl's views on politics, but usually turns ugly....QUICK. I'm very thin skinned and do get offended easily. So therefor, I'd prefer you be a left leaning supporter if you wish to get with me. No offense if you're a republican supporter, we just have nothing in common. However, if you're a trump supporter....you can GTH!  Sorry, it's how i feel.

Have a good day! 🙂

So, your requirements include no Republicans, period? Or just no Trump supporters? What about anti-Trump Republicans? Conservative independents? Libertarians?

Feel free to set any compatibility requirements you feel are necessary. We all have them. Just be clear on where you're drawing the line.

Personally, I don't think I'd be compatible with anyone who wears a Maga hat, but not every Republican, and not every conservative, is in that camp. I'm also fine with just not discussing politics with a spanking partner. If this person were also going to be my life partner, then politics wouldn't be completely avoidable, but that's a bridge to cross if we get there.

If you are seeking a partner, why not fill out the About Me section in your profile? There, you can spell out what you are and are not interested in. Including the kind of dynamic you want, age/gender preference, politics, and anything else you feel is important.

Edited March 16, 2022 by Bramblewine

[Lotsapappa]

I believe when your young (<35) your lucky if something consumes you. Plenty of vices to numb the sting or justify actions. Politics takes the commitment and conviction  Mnee1 appears to have this ready to cut ties with multiple family members early in life. Boss Tweed would have been proud. Always make amends later. 

Coming from an old monied NYC family, I recommend reading  about Gilded Age (Twain) , free silver (main platform Democrats) or watch HBO new Gilded Age drama. Fascinating that a new opera brings old and new world families together covered in the series.

The meaning of gilded - a thin veneer of gold (respectability) covering up major societal problems of that age is essentially same as DaChief’s statement. 

[Cheeks4Weeks]

I'm not quite sure why this was a post, and just not part of your profile, or standard introduction when responding to message requests.

[Lotsapappa]

MNee1 is simply increasing visibility to her profile and making this site more interesting. She appears to have strong opinions and challenging the other side to comment. I think that is a good thing. 

She posted in Daily Banter which the label implies playful and or teasing. She accomplished both in my view. 

 

[Rand E]

I am absolutely non-partisan.  I haven't voted for a major party candidate for president my entire life.  To the extent I have trouble talking about politics with others, it's inevitably because I sometimes make the mistake of speaking to some close-minded true-believer political-zealot who can't accept that anybody might disagree with them without getting hostile.  Those are the folks, as you described it, trying to ram their beliefs down everybody's throat.  But most of the time, I have very interesting and entirely civil conversations with people in my travels even about politics.    

I wish there were more active political parties that could represent the many different interests and viewpoints that exist in this country.  Our 2-party system has become a dysfunctional partisan death match spreading poisonous divisive propaganda and leaving no room for cooperation or compromise.  Maybe adding competing voices and perspectives could help inject some perspective and sanity into our current political environment. 

But it's hard not to be cynical.  Somehow our glorious 2-party democracy narrowed our last presidential election down to a contest between Trump and Biden, and then, it made everybody feel compelled to vote for one or the other of these dorks.  How does this happen?  Are these the best candidates we can come up with as potential leaders of the free world? 

If so, God help us.  

 

[SkipNC]

@Rand E, once one accepts that the USA was never intended to be a democracy but a republic, things become easier to understand.  The problem is that we try to act like a democracy.  That places me in a difficult spot because, as an immigrant who has taken US citizenship, I took an oath to defend the republican form of government.

[Rand E]

3 hours ago, SkipNC said:

@Rand E, once one accepts that the USA was never intended to be a democracy but a republic, things become easier to understand.  The problem is that we try to act like a democracy.  That places me in a difficult spot because, as an immigrant who has taken US citizenship, I took an oath to defend the republican form of government.

I realize the U. S. is not a direct democracy.  I was using the term democracy in the broader sense of a system of government in which the people have the power to participate in decision-making.  But having a democratic republic doesn't mean that a strict 2-party system is best.  And better still, unlike a parliamentary system, each elected representative gets to vote, regardless of party affiliation.  It seems like we are in better shape than a parliamentary system to have multiple parties participating in government if that's what the voters wanted.  At least, that's my theory, anyways.    

The other point made in an earlier post, which is well taken, is the question of how this relates to spanking.  There is definitely a political dimension to adult spanking, but damned if I can figure out how or even whether it fits into the current partisan framework.  I think this site alone is a good demonstration of how varied the politics and backgrounds of spankos really are, so it's probably better for us all here to not engage in or get worked up about partisan political divisions.

 

 

[SkipNC]

@Rand E when you say that, unlike in the parliamentary system, each representative gets to vote, are you thinking of the whip system?  Not looking for a deep academic debate, unless you want one - just curious.  The whip system can be a problem, because it will turn a parliamentary democracy into an elected dictatorship for the term of the parliament if one party has a significant majority.  Unless, of course, the whips on all sides can agree on which votes party members are obliged to support and those votes where there is more leeway for individual members to vote their conscience.  Looking to my native Scotland, it troubles me that three line whips (vote the party line or else) are the default, rather than a two-line whip (you may abstain once in a while).

As for a two-party system in a republic, I wish it were not so, but I think that is the practical effect of living in a large country, where the federal government has found creative ways of influencing the states in their decision-making.

[Lotsapappa]

Politics aside, MNee1 knows what she wants and is upfront about it. ER & EE’s getting together is all about two people on same page and communicating effectively. 

Her GTH comment throws me though. GTH means Glad To Hear - right? 

[SkipNC]

@Lotsapappa I suspect, but may be wrong, that it means Go to H E double hockeysticks.  That probably works better in the UK, because over there a hockey stick means field hockey.

[Bramblewine]

5 minutes ago, SkipNC said:

@Lotsapappa I suspect, but may be wrong, that it means Go to H E double hockeysticks.  That probably works better in the UK, because over there a hockey stick means field hockey.

That's how I interpreted it too.

[Lotsapappa]

That’s…That’s just Nitpicking, isn’t it? 

[Rand E]

Obviously, not a Trump fan.  

[MNee1]

On 3/24/2022 at 12:44 AM, Rand E said:

Obviously, not a Trump fan.  

B-I-N-G-O, daddy!!!! 

[MNee1]

Thanks for all the replies, but NO republican supporters. Thank you! 🙂

[Bramblewine]

1 minute ago, MNee1 said:

Thanks for all the replies, but NO republican supporters. Thank you! 🙂

How are you defining Republican supporter?

Most Americans vote for both parties at least occasionally. Depending on where they live, there may not be much choice. My politics are left leaning, similarly to yours, and have been as long as I've been old enough to formulate my own opinions, but for several years of that I lived in Arizona, which was such a heavily Republican state at the time that there weren't always any non-Republican candidates to vote for, in the local and statewide races. I did vote for Republicans in those cases. Some of them, like John McCain and Jane Hull, I really thought well of. (But I did not vote for McCain when he ran for president, because Obama had my vote hands down. If McCain had been up against someone like Trump, I would have.)

 

[Rand E]

You know what's missing from this thread is how spanking fits into or is influenced by our political views.  Even if we have a diversity of political views, we all somehow came to be spankos and enjoy engaging with each other on that topic.

Since I brought it up, I will take a stab at where I'm coming from as a spanko. 

I view being a spanko primarily as a vital aspect of my sexuality.  I know there are folks here that claim no sexual connection and spank for other reasons.  But I started out with a heavy-duty spanking fetish and then expanded into other areas, such as disciplinary spanking.  Your right to engage in whatever sexual orientation suits your needs is akin to a basic human right, just about as essential and personal as it gets.  

As such, I take a very dim view of those who feel they have the right to interfere in this thing we do, or to try to impose their contrary morals and values on us.  This is especially egregious when folks who are against adult spanking, or any other sexual kink for that matter, don't simply disapprove, or express their disapproval, but try to use their political or economic power penalize and punish those with whom they disagree, especially if they try to enlist the coercive power of government to achieve those ends.  I believe that we all have a right to disagree and to express our disagreements, but I believe that society works better with voluntary cooperation and tolerance, not moralizing and hostility.  

 

 

 

[rubyredd]

8 hours ago, Rand E said:

I view being a spanko primarily as a vital aspect of my sexuality.  I know there are folks here that claim no sexual connection and spank for other reasons.  But I started out with a heavy-duty spanking fetish and then expanded into other areas, such as disciplinary spanking.  Your right to engage in whatever sexual orientation suits your needs is akin to a basic human right, just about as essential and personal as it gets.  

As such, I take a very dim view of those who feel they have the right to interfere in this thing we do, or to try to impose their contrary morals and values on us.  This is especially egregious when folks who are against adult spanking, or any other sexual kink for that matter, don't simply disapprove, or express their disapproval, but try to use their political or economic power penalize and punish those with whom they disagree, especially if they try to enlist the coercive power of government to achieve those ends.  I believe that we all have a right to disagree and to express our disagreements, but I believe that society works better with voluntary cooperation and tolerance, not moralizing and hostility.  

 

 

 

Agree. All this.