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Weird question, huh?  But sometimes I sit in church and my mind wanders away with questions. I see a stern faced deacon with a thick belt around his belt and wonder if he's used it on his wife to keep her in the straight and narrow. I see the worship director swaying his hands as he's leading the songs and wonder if his hands have been used to smack a bare bottom. I hear the pastor mention the word discipline in his sermons and I wonder if he'd ever like to discipline the flock. I wonder how many of those church folk I see every Sunday have accounts here or other sites.  

There's the pastor of my childhood who I'd consider a spanko, just because I've known him to smack the butts of a few....smacked mine for leaving service in the middle of singing songs, smacked a friend of mine's bottom for missing some church services, and even smacked a colleague of his on his birthday! Haha! Sometimes I wish I'd never moved away and still be under his guidance and leadership! Oh, well....

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I, myself, have been a Christian since October of 1976.  I started preaching in 1979, and preached pretty steady for 35 years.  That was my career.  But I have been fascinated with spanking since I was 7 or 8 years old.  You can't just "flip a switch" and make that go away.  Yes, I go through all of the guilt and the shame that one has when I've failed God, and let Him down.  Then I remember that the Apostle Paul wrote "where sin abounds, Grace does Much More Abound!"  And I take comfort and joy in knowing that because of God's grace, He Loves me STILL.  The main difference in my spanking life now, since growing in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ, is: this spanking thing had a "tight grip" on me as I was bound and addicted to it.  I still am involved init, but it no longer "owns me," for now I belong to Jesus.  The Bible says so in John Chapter 17. 

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10 minutes ago, PapaSpanknhug said:

I, myself, have been a Christian since October of 1976.  I started preaching in 1979, and preached pretty steady for 35 years.  That was my career.  But I have been fascinated with spanking since I was 7 or 8 years old.  You can't just "flip a switch" and make that go away.  Yes, I go through all of the guilt and the shame that one has when I've failed God, and let Him down.  Then I remember that the Apostle Paul wrote "where sin abounds, Grace does Much More Abound!"  And I take comfort and joy in knowing that because of God's grace, He Loves me STILL.  The main difference in my spanking life now, since growing in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ, is: this spanking thing had a "tight grip" on me as I was bound and addicted to it.  I still am involved init, but it no longer "owns me," for now I belong to Jesus.  The Bible says so in John Chapter 17. 

Oh, and if you are curious, the answer is Yes.  Yes I have spanked some of my congregation members.  Never as discipline, but more like for teasing and being silly, for like birthdays and such, etc.  There have been some members that in my mind and my heart, I wanted to take across my knee because they misbehaved, and flip up their Sunday-best dress, and spank the daylights out of them till their bottoms "glowed in the dark."  But that never got passed the stage of "wishful thinking." hehe

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My husband and I are both Christians and long-time members and leaders, of our church.

In terms of TTWD, I don't think that it and our faith (or leadership) are in conflict, but I think this because of the way that I go about doing it.

I believe that I am hard-wired as an EE. I spent decades trying to deny or ignore it. Over the years I felt a lot of shame and embarrassment. Then I read about Spanking Therapy. This is when I brought it up with my husband. Before this, I did not think that spanking without sex, was a thing. With his permission I looked for a spanker.

I have  my husbands support. He doesn't understand it but he sees how much it has helped me. I found a male spanker (from this forum BTW) who introduced me to spanking. Now I have a female mentor who is helping me make some serious lifestyle changes, and helping me to believe in myself and care for myself. Spanking is sometimes a punishment and sometimes a reward.

Why do I think there isn't a conflict:

  1. It is not behind my husbands back. He doesn't want details but he knows what is going on.
  2. It is not sexual - that would be reserved for my husband if he were so inclined.
  3. I am taking steps to care for myself - I have lost 40 lbs (18.5 kg) since the beginning of April this year (it is mid-August now). Six inches off of my waist and five from my hips. This has not been by using fad diets. It has been about being active (90 minutes of activity, as registered on my fitbit, each day), and about eating healthy (green and red vegetables and protein) and finding healthy ways to snack. I have also been off caffeinated coffee and tea for a couple of months.
    1. God wants us to be good stewards and caring for our bodies and minds is part of that.
    2. I can't be a good leader if I am depressed and anxious all of the time. I can't be a good anything.
  4. In my case, having a female mentor is better. There are still men who help to spank me but she is the one providing the structure, support, compassion, discipline, etc. I find this process to be intimate - I say a lot of things I don't say to others. We are in contact every day via the internet and I speak of her with my husband. If my mentor were a man, in my case, this level of intimacy would be dangerous.
  5. Spanking for therapeutic reasons is not much different than running long distances and other exercise regimens, extreme sports and other adrenaline rush producing activities, or getting a full body massage.
    1. Think about it. When you get a massage you are going to someone who is not your spouse (often of the opposite sex, though not always) and getting naked. That person is touching and rubbing your body, including your bottom and causing you pain that could last for days. It hurts, but in the long-run you are better for it. My husband runs and he gets massages. He understands the comparison.

There are people at church that know I have a Life Coach. We have told them of the essay I had to write when I drank three cups of coffee one Sunday and my mood plummeted. Or the increased activity I had to do for getting into the habit of eating sweets daily. They are a little bemused that I accept such discipline (though I am not sure this word was ever used) but I explain it as me wanting the change and this structure works for me. The spanking part is private. I don't need other people's approval so I don't seek it. My husband knows and a good friend at work knows.

A couple of months ago I had to give a sermon on Mark Chapter 2 - Jesus was challenging the traditions of the sabbath. I have preached several times over the years, but initially with this one, I was feeling ill-equipped. Who was I to present, instruct, and/ or guide others on how to conduct themselves? Then I read Corinthians Chapter 4, which was one of the other readings. St Paul tells us that we are jars of clay - essentially utilitarian and breakable - but there is treasure within i.e. God. I understood that I am flawed in many ways, but God's light can shine through me. So, even if I am wrong about TTWD being compatible with my faith and being a leader in a church community (which I don't think I am), that is my flaw, and in spite of it, through God's power (not mine) and God's grace I can still lead, I can still support, and I can still learn.

Thanks for listening.

 

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I am an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon, LDS). 

I have ached for and needed to be spanked since I was about 5. I never spoke about it to anyone. I thought I was wrong in wanting and needing discipline like this in my life. I found SN and the spanking world 2 1/2 years ago. I’m still searching for the right local disciplinarian for me (it’s difficult to find spankos in Idaho and Utah), but I don’t feel guilty anymore for my need. It helps me in so many ways. 

I’m so glad I’m not alone in this world ❤️

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"I’m still searching for the right local disciplinarian for me (it’s difficult to find spankos in Idaho and Utah), but I don’t feel guilty anymore for my need. It helps me in so many ways. "

Wondering since you wrote in our club, if you have been successful in finding a church member who can help you.

Some years ago I was chatting online with some folks, members of your church, who clearly felt that accountability was helpful.

I hope you do get the help you want and need

Davyd 

 

 

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i am always glad to find other Christians in our forums, and especially other members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (SassyLou!). i have run across several Church members here, which is nice, although percentage-wise i'm sure the ratio is very small. 

So, in answer to your question, i have served in several leadership positions in the Church, and as a Gospel Doctrine/Sunday School teacher for adults, adolescents, and children. (No, i have never spanked anyone!!!) Once, when younger (30) a member of my congregation did paddle me, quite seriously, and an ex-wife also paddled me very seriously. Outside of those two, nobody from my own congregations has ever paddled me, although two others who were Church members have paddled me.

So, yes, i think spanking and paddling and strapping happens among Church goers. i think it's probably quite rare in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, however!!!!

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I have been very active in the past in organized religion,  particularly Protestant Christianity.  I have lost faith in the structure of the church over the years, but my faith in Christ is strong. Too many money grubbing tv evangelists have soured me on the "church" as an organization. Christ taught and held meetings in people homes. He didnt need a mega building and a Leer jet to spread the Gospel.

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I have been quite active over the years as well, including working with the church teen group on a weekly basis, and teaching religious education classes for a wide range of age groups. I have actually met a few people through my church activities that let on through various clues that they were interested in spanking, had been spanked, or wanted to be. I see no conflict between religion and an interest in spanking, provided that the spanking activity is always 100% non sexual. I also know at least one assistant pastor who is very much into TTWD and regularly sought to be spanked by others they were connected with outside of the church. 

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My spankee is a devout Catholic. Once day she asked her priest if it was ok that she got spanked. He told her that only her husband (she's single) should see her bare ass. Ever since that day she hasn't been the same person, such a shame.

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My spankee is a devout Catholic. Once day she asked her priest if it was ok that she got spanked. He told her that only her husband (she's single) should see her bare ass. Ever since that day she hasn't been the same person, such a shame.

What of doctors, nurses, and massage therapists? I would encourage her to seek a second opinion.

This makes me sad.

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I am an active member of the Church of God...

I am disabled.  Have a home health care aide that is aware i was spanked with my ex wife...   Cardiologist, Neurologist, Nurse Practitioner knows was to protect my spouse should aide report redness or bruise...   in addition should i find a new FLR Domestic Discipline Relationship it would protect her as well...

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On 12/21/2019 at 2:55 PM, xntrick said:

My spankee is a devout Catholic. Once day she asked her priest if it was ok that she got spanked. He told her that only her husband (she's single) should see her bare ass. Ever since that day she hasn't been the same person, such a shame.

Mmmmm....as a devout practicing catholic I both agree and disagree with the advice as stated.  However, the devil is in the details of her situation.  If she wants to reach out to somebody who she can relate to and coming from a similar approach while have no other motives or intentions I am open to it.  Have her PM me.  Asking if somthing is a sin is a little less cut and dry than that.

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I was very active not too long ago. I went to ministry school and earned my degree in ministerial leadership. In that program, I interned at a church and ended up serving in a variety of positions. I was a leader in youth ministry, a preschool ministry teacher, administrative assistant for my ministry college, guest services leader, and occasionally did some production for services. I also helped lead worship for the youth group at another church. It sounds like a lot...but all of that was just a part of college for me. I only physically went to class once a week. Otherwise, classes were all online. The rest of the week was all my internship work.

Now, I simply attend church. I don't plan on doing full-time ministry, it just isn't for me. But I was on this site during the end of that time. And my faith is still the most important thing in my life, even if I decided it wasn't the right career path for me.

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I am active in my church. Choir member, lector, volunteer. At the same time, I knew I was sinning by engaging in spanking outside my marriage. Now single, I am currently not sexually active, and I do not consider it sinful to engage in spanking activities that are not overtly sexual, though they do include partial or full nudity and certainly have a sexual component.

tony

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On 8/17/2018 at 2:22 PM, LateBloomer said:

Mark Chapter 2 - Jesus was challenging the traditions of the sabbath. I have preached several times over the years, but initially with this one, I was feeling ill-equipped. Who was I to present, instruct, and/ or guide others on how to conduct themselves? Then I read Corinthians Chapter 4, which was one of the other readings. St Paul tells us that we are jars of clay - essentially utilitarian and breakable - but there is treasure within i.e. God. I understood that I am flawed in many ways, but God's light can shine through me. So, even if I am wrong about TTWD being compatible with my faith and being a leader in a church community (which I don't think I am), that is my flaw, and in spite of it, through God's power (not mine) and God's grace I can still lead, I can still support, and I can still learn.

I think I'm going to be stealing this and using it for others. This is one of the most succinct and good ways of establishing and separating personal desire from religious devotion and adherence.

I have always acted and believed that post-crucifixion, that the old testament was essentially washed clean. All the fire and brimstone of the old books and all the rules, covenants, even the ten commandments, they are no longer hard and fast laws of god, but the guideposts of our lives to live by. We get to live our live and make those mistakes, and at the end of the day, as long as we give our love and devotion to christ, we can still be saved and judged as everyone else who believes and given our chance to enter heaven. Because what we do with our lives, what experience we gain mortally, ultimately, is not always sinful anymore.

I think a lot of people just inherently say nudity/spanking/anything taboo = sexual and don't actually understand what it is they are doing and the nuances and use things to hide what they feel is shameful, like scripture. I've seen many people hide behind scripture and text instead of using their own common sense.

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