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This is a much much longer conversation, but based on your own assessment about antiquity you cannot know if spanking was used for pleasure. It’s unknowable. Because anything not on camera by your view is effectively unknowable.

The take on antiquity being effectively unknowable is concerning.

On a purely philosophical note this scares me.

half the board is currently thinking... do I have a way to get to Montana, and yea.

@NewEr I’ll drop this here... there are a lot of scholarly works on corporal discipline within the early church. This is 7th century, but it is by no means the earliest focus. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C44&q=corporal+punishment+of+adults+monastery&oq=corporal+punishment+of+adults+monas#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DaGDSDBjROMcJ If you have a license this resource is also very good scholarly work about the subject of discipline of males by males. https://www.jstor.org/stable/4352762?refreqid=excelsior%3A8bbc86391cc9148fa2a2a35768a55b19&seq=1 women

@rubyreddi fundamentally disagree that this is clutching at straws. But each is entitled to their own opinion

You have to hang that hat on church history and the broader historical context of 1st century Rome. proverbs leaves it pretty open across the board. Keep in mind the notion of adults not facing corporal discipline is pretty much relegated to the 20th century. It is always useful to take care not to read a first century document with 21st century eyes.

Maybe to all of the above. Pictures and videos probably not the best idea. The question of scripture is valid if you hold that was the authority over your life. What @Oldbratis doing isn’t really twisting scripture, and there at minimum is a fair amount of support for fraternal Discipline

@sassylittleoldbrat did an amazing job with this...

The problem is they have a hard time staying in distribution.

Honestly I’ve gotten aroused when I’ve been pulled over by the cops because I was embarrassed. I’ve gotten aroused when I’ve slipped and fallen, because I was embarrassed. Let’s be real... a response to embarrassing situations for many is arousal. That said by the end of a spanking I’m not showing any signs of arousal.

Husbands love your wives as Christ loves the church... That said I definitely seek out others for discipline than my wife. She knows about it but has zero interest in taking that role. I can make a strong biblical case for the Spencer plan.

For dating isn’t it’s the younger person over 18 it’s age+ (age/2+6)... so as a 36 year old... 36/2 18+6 = 24+36 = 60 is acceptable for me going up “socially”

Alternative option is a introduction spanking where you aren’t getting punished so much as going through what the expectations and limits are. that’s how every spanker I’ve had has done it. then a spanking comes with actual discipline.

There are two schools of thought on this, and to be honest the data leans against the reward only approach. It also leans against the punishment only approach. people in a work environment, perform for two reasons... they don’t want to get fired /suffer a pay cut/ miss a bonus/ get called out (spanked), they want a promotion/ bonus/ rewards etc. organizational behavior proves again and again, you need both. If there aren’t both it fails. People don’t lose weight because they don’t have a “spank” consequence, we’re very bad at being motivated when there isn’t some aspect of external disci